The Mormons Hate Gays


This guy couldn't marry who he wanted, so why should you?

This guy couldn't marry who he wanted, so why should you?

Prop 8 has, sadly, passed. It’s possible, but unlikely, it will be brought down in court and a revision will be required rather than an amendment. But in the meantime, one of the few beacons of hope for gays in this country was snuffed out and that is due, at least in part, to twenty million dollars from the Mormon Church (and yes, I know they prefer to be referred to as the LDS, or Latter-Day Saints Church. I prefer to have my civil rights).

The Mormons, hardly people who need to be dissing on others for marital practices somewhat outside the mainstream, are a bunch of fucking bigoted jerks.

In an article in the Los Angeles Times, Jeff Flint, a strategist for the Yes on 8 campaign, had this to say about people who are villifying the Mormon Church for their involvement in this issue.

“I am appalled at the level of Mormon-bashing that went on during the Proposition 8 campaign and continues to this day,” he said. “If this activity were directed against any other church, if someone put up a website that targeted Jews or Catholics in a similar fashion for the mere act of participating in a political campaign, it would be widely and rightfully condemned.”

I, on the other hand, am appalled at the level of gay-bashing that went on by the mere existence of Proposition 8 and the campaign in favor of it, and that continues to this day. If this activity were directed at inter-racial or interfaith marriages, if someone put up a website targeting such in a similar fashion for the mere act of trying to have the same rights as everyone else, it would be widely and rightfully condemned.

Now the Mormons aren’t the only ones involved, just the largest. Apparently the Knights of Columbus gave one million dollars to the campaign. Oh, that’s good, and yet another reason why I consider the Catholic Church to be the greatest force of evil in the world today.

Consider this quote from Rick Jacobs, from the Courage Campaign:

Leaders of the No-on-8 campaign said they did not believe they were engaged in Mormon-bashing. “This is not about religion,” said Jacobs. “This is about a church that put itself in the middle of politics.”

Exactly. If the Church didn’t want to be called-out for their bigoted point of views, they should’ve kept their nose out of this to begin with.

The Church fired back with this:

“The Church acknowledges that such an emotionally charged issue concerning the most personal and cherished aspects of life — family and marriage — stirs fervent and deep feelings,” church spokeswoman Kim Farah wrote in an e-mail. “No one on either side of the question should be vilified, harassed or subject to erroneous information.”

That’s correct. Which is why the people who favored this shouldn’t have spread lies about how children, your poor, innocent children!, would have to learn about gay marriages in schools. That’s the “erroneous information” part. As far as the vilification and harassment part? Oh, I don’t know. What do you call it when a group of religious nut jobs wants to take away legal rights possessed by another group for no reason other than the fact that the Bible says they should?

Here’s another quote, this time from a Church member for whom irony is an unknown concept:

“As a member of the LDS church we have known [and still do] the feeling of being ridiculed and mistreated because of our faith,” he said.

As a member of a sexual minority or two, I have known [and still do], the feeling of being ridiculed and mistreated because of my sexuality. Oh, and there’s no legal discrimination against Mormons. There is against gays, lesbians and bisexuals.

Basically the Mormon Church needs to piss off back to SLC and keep their nose out of something that isn’t any of their business. If they try to stick their noses into it, they can’t blame us when we take a swipe at them.

Fucking fucktards.

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9 Responses to “The Mormons Hate Gays”

  1. asimplesinner Says:

    “Oh, that’s good, and yet another reason why I consider the Catholic Church to be the greatest force of evil in the world today.”

    Yea, them with their stupid soup kitchens and hospitals and St. Vincent de Paul Society and Catholic Charities and housing initiatives for the poor and schools and volunteer programs in the third world…

    “Fucktards” indeed.

  2. Chris Says:

    Yeah, with their telling people birth control is a sin, homosexuality is a sin, divorce is a sin, etc. Sure, they have charities. But Hamas has charitable organizations, too. The Church does a lot more evil than good. Check this article for my full views: https://wilybadger.wordpress.com/2008/02/27/the-greatest-force-of-evil-in-the-world-today/ <— I’d meant to put a link in the article above. I’ve added it now. :)

  3. asimplesinner Says:

    Good for you in adding that. Better full disclosure I suppose.

    Yeah, with their telling people birth control is a sin, homosexuality is a sin, divorce is a sin, etc. Sure, they have charities. But Hamas has charitable organizations, too.

    Ah yes, pretty comparable there. I understand Hamas sends their version of nuns round the world to feed the poor regardless of religion.

    As to the birth control matter, hard as it may be for some sexual revolutionaries to imagine, not all the world is clamoring to stem its own tide, or sees its children as burdensome.

    Ahh the evil of Mother Church.

  4. Chris Says:

    Actually, part of the problem with Hamas, an entirely despicable organization, is that they do send people around the world to do charitable stuff. Sadly, of course, they have other, far more unpleasant agendas.

    And you can’t tell me that a poor, African or South American woman who already has nine kids she can’t feed is really eager for a tenth. The fact is, people should at least be offered access to birth control, even if they choose not to use it. And the Church should be neutral on the issue.

  5. Chris Says:

    Good use of sarcasm, btw. Always nice to see someone who can weild it well. :)

  6. prop8discussion Says:

    churches do tons of good in this world. i don’t really see preaching the sanctity of life as “Evil”

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38669132820&ref=nf

    also:
    http://www.lds.org/humanitarianservices/0,19749,6208,00.html

    and mormons don’t hate gays.
    look here for their official statement:
    http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/church-responds-to-same-sex-marriage-votes

  7. Chris Says:

    I very much appreciate you linking me those articles, so thank you there. :) I’ll review them more in depth later, but I do have this to say about the offical statement. Here’s a quote:

    It is important to understand that this issue for the Church has always been about the sacred and divine institution of marriage — a union between a man and a woman.

    So, that’s fine, the Church doesn’t have to support gay marriage, but they also don’t have to interfere and try to stop gay marriage. No one, including me, would force them to have religious marriages in their church between people they don’t want married. This is not an issue that affects them, and it is not their business.

    And yes, I stand by my statements that they hate gays. I have a hard time describing anything like blantant discrimination and stripping people of their civil rights based on their sexuality as anything other than hatred.

    Lastly, yes, preaching the sanctity of life is fine. Extending it to things like forcing women to go through with a dangerous pregnancy and denying people ready access to birth control is not fine.

  8. asimplesinner Says:

    Smallest of requests – you seem to conflate a number of institutions into the term “The Church”. The links given by P8D were to LDS sights, but in your response you seem to mix and match them with Catholics and all Christians in general…

  9. Chris Says:

    That’s true. In this article when I say “The Church” I am primarily referring to the Mormons. When I write about the Catholic Church I also refer to that as “The Church”. I’ll try to differentiate more and be more clear when I write things about more than one religious body.


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